I had a discussion with a fundie at work. I explained the only reference to a woman being caused to lose a baby/to have aborted a baby is in the Old Testament (it is something like if a man causes a woman to lose her baby, a judge and husband will decide the payment). Anyway, the fundie informed me, “The Old Testament is not part of Christianity and is superseded by the New Testament.” My point is, can’t quote Old Testament stuff to Christians. It won’t apply…accept if they decide it does, which is based upon whether or not it helps or hurts their cause. Mmm, ‘k?
This is a reason I couldn’t stay Christian. I began noticing there was too much “this is figurative but that’s not” kinda language. I know a true understanding requires knowing the context, but it’s too often used as an excuse when someone can’t explain or defend their ideas. And ultimately, Christians are not supernaturally different than anyone else, and that’s how Jesus promised they would be.
Almost every discussion I’ve ever been in bringing up Bible verses that contradict their beliefs “out of context” is the go to. Other greatest hits include “lost in translation from the original” and “viewed from that time”.
Pretty sure the bible says that god created Satan, seeing as how ‘he’ created the angels, and Lucifer aka Satan was the head angel, who had a bad argument with god and was cast out. So…… all evil is on god. If you believe in the whole skydaddy mythos, that is.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. **Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.** In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
I am posting this because this verse popped into my memory. But I now believe arguing over Bible verses is like debating the world of Harry Potter, or Harry Potter fan fiction. It just doesn’t matter.
Dabosy
‘God didn’t create evil, Satan did’ …and who created Satan?
Going to church is not studying scripture. It’s like saying you’re pretty much a doctor because there is this one medical podcast you listen to.
‘Yes let me tell u what someone else told me that it means.’
Isn’t taking things out of context churches’ signature move?
So, God is not almighty? You’re saying something exists that he did not create?
“I know the scriptures, I go to church every Sunday” Where to even begin with this pile of horse shit?
I feel with both religion and politics it is like a game to people to never admit they were wrong.
From there you just say “okay, so what was the context?” and then they don’t respond.
I had a discussion with a fundie at work. I explained the only reference to a woman being caused to lose a baby/to have aborted a baby is in the Old Testament (it is something like if a man causes a woman to lose her baby, a judge and husband will decide the payment). Anyway, the fundie informed me, “The Old Testament is not part of Christianity and is superseded by the New Testament.” My point is, can’t quote Old Testament stuff to Christians. It won’t apply…accept if they decide it does, which is based upon whether or not it helps or hurts their cause. Mmm, ‘k?
Isn’t that the corner stone of the church taking things out of context.
If only evil can create evil
And if Satan can create evil, than Satan is evil
If god created Satan, than god is evil
If god did create Satan, than god can create evil
Disproving his original statement
So either god can create evil, or god is evil.
This is a reason I couldn’t stay Christian. I began noticing there was too much “this is figurative but that’s not” kinda language. I know a true understanding requires knowing the context, but it’s too often used as an excuse when someone can’t explain or defend their ideas. And ultimately, Christians are not supernaturally different than anyone else, and that’s how Jesus promised they would be.
I’m not very religious but didn’t god make satan? Do tell me if I’m wrong
“God works in mysterious ways”
I’m gonna start saying satan works in mysterious ways whenever something good happens
Almost every discussion I’ve ever been in bringing up Bible verses that contradict their beliefs “out of context” is the go to. Other greatest hits include “lost in translation from the original” and “viewed from that time”.
Pretty sure the bible says that god created Satan, seeing as how ‘he’ created the angels, and Lucifer aka Satan was the head angel, who had a bad argument with god and was cast out. So…… all evil is on god. If you believe in the whole skydaddy mythos, that is.
“Heaven for me and not for thee”
Step number one toward becoming an atheist: Read the Bible.
God literally drowned the entire world at one point.
These people lack critical thinking skills.
Naturally.
The ultimate evil created is someone trying to talk to me, while I clearly have headphones in listening to music on public transport
Pretty sad when a non religious person knows the Bible better than the person going to church every Sunday
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
– Epicurus
John 1:1
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. **Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.** In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
I am posting this because this verse popped into my memory. But I now believe arguing over Bible verses is like debating the world of Harry Potter, or Harry Potter fan fiction. It just doesn’t matter.