I keep going back and forth on this book. Tim has always been my favorite Robin since I started reading Young Justice as a kid, and I love that there’s been an attempt to guide Tim to a specific identity instead of being “the other Robin.”
But Fitzmartin’s writing often comes across scattered and repetitive. Rossmo’s art really shines during action and his paneling during fight scenes is truly unique, but his Loony Tunes style completely undermines emotional scenes.
Promising seeds have been planted, but I think we need another creative team to help grow the relationship/identity themes.
Robin and Batgirls ending at the same time while Batman promises, “The future of the Bat-books starts here” is interesting. Maybe it’s my denial over Batgirls ending, but it’s quite a coincidence
For real though, DC made the right choice. It was the worst selling Bat book (last month’s issue dropped out of the Top 200 monthly singles charts) and received overall negative critical and fan reception. There was no saving this book barring a new creative team. But DC just decided to cut their losses instead.
Though I’m surprised DC didn’t try to rough it out and end it on Issue #12 (which likely would have ended arc 2 properly). But I guess sales dropped too low for them to ignore.
FM has overall made a mess with Tim’s character, his supporting cast, and YJ, so I’m hoping when his title or YJ gets rebooted, a lot of stuff FM introduced gets ignored or retconned out (and no, I’m not talking about Tim’s bisexuality. Just…everything else). Bringing back some of Tim’s civilian cast from Dixon’s run like Ives and Ariana would go a long way to make him feel a bit more unique again. Even Bernard with his OG characterization and not whatever we got with FM’s take on him wouldn’t be the worst thing.
And for DC gods sake, give him an new codename (though I doubt that’ll happen anytime soon given he’s going by Robin in Zdarsky’s Batman arc) and a new boyfriend (if they decide to keep TimSteph broken up). Even OG Bernard would never be a good choice for Tim. Give me TimIves or TimKon at least if we can’t have TimSteph.
This is a staight up mercy killing. I have every other run of Tim Drake’s solo and mini series, but quit this one after book 3. I just hope that Fitzmartin is shown the door after this. If Tim gets a new identity, I don’t want her anywhere near him.
Let the dust settle for a few months, introduce his new status quo in in a popular Batman book. Then have a good writer and a good artist start a new Tim book. At least that’s my wish for Tim’s future.
This is both sad and ironically funny their canceling the book during pride month. Hopefully they finally save Tim and give him to a new writer (and also just stop handing male lgbt characters to straight writers since they seem to struggle with writing them more thsn than female lgbt characters)
I’d be cool with Zdarsky continuing to use Tim as Robin in *Batman*. Sometimes teaming up with Bruce in the main feature, or sometimes doing solo adventures in the back-up. Just my two cents
I was wondering if this issue was the last one because the cover screams “final cover” and that solicitation is so low energy compared to the previous solicitations.
Goodbye fitzmartin era Tim. You were so painful to read and you deserved better. I hope DC realizes that Tim is still a good character to use but just needs the right creative team….and better spouse.
I was so excited when they announced this series and then I saw the internal art 😭 the covers always look so nice too. Maybe he will get a better series sometime down the line.
Wonder if there’s a bat fam book planned? Seems like jason and Cass only have appearances lined up in joker and spirit world, Tim just has Batman backups, while Steph and Damian have nothing
If he’s not the “main” Robin, I’d kinda like to see Tim become a more hero-y (sane) version of The Question. He’s like the world’s greatest detective, right? So let him detect. Dig up conspiracies deep in the under-bowels of DC universe; weed out metahuman child trafficking rings, up-and-coming secret society wannabes, mafiosi brokering arms deals with evil aliens/mad scientists, nefarious cloning facilities, and the like – and then assemble his YJ crew (under a new name) and take those evil fckers out in sting operations. He needs a niche, fast – they all do, as they are no longer the spunky heirs to the great hero mantles anymore.
The art and the writing put me off. I’m just not a fan of Fitzmartins work….especially after the pieces of Dark Crisis Young Justice. Just mean spirited and seemingly badly researched. So I passed on this one.
This is unrelated but since Didio is gone, can someone get Williams III and Blackman back for another run? Give them whatever they want. Just get Kate Kane on another good run. Oh and Tim Drake deserves better too.
Finally, it was about damn time that Meghan Fitzmartin finally gave an end to her awful comic book, the way how she characterized Tim Drake was cringey, similar when she wrote the Dark Crisis: Young Justice tie-in series, I hope that we could see Tim become Red Robin again and have his new comic book with a more professional creative team behind soon, in the other side I’m honestly not angry that DC Comics revealed Tim as bisexual, that’s fine for me, I just want that Tim Drake is continued to be developed decently.
I bought issues 1 and 2, but I found the art too difficult to continue with it. The story didn’t seem particularly awful, and he *is* one of my all time favorite characters; however, I’ve had a few comics where the art actually detracted enough… and I dropped it. Wonder how many more were like me.
My fav thing about this book: it has an end😍! Zdarsky is better at using him (I didn’t enjoy the premise of Failsafe though, but I’m enjoying the current events) in the Batman run.
I keep going back and forth on this book. Tim has always been my favorite Robin since I started reading Young Justice as a kid, and I love that there’s been an attempt to guide Tim to a specific identity instead of being “the other Robin.”
But Fitzmartin’s writing often comes across scattered and repetitive. Rossmo’s art really shines during action and his paneling during fight scenes is truly unique, but his Loony Tunes style completely undermines emotional scenes.
Promising seeds have been planted, but I think we need another creative team to help grow the relationship/identity themes.
I didn’t really enjoy this run (mostly because of the art, I think), but it did have some great covers.
Hopefully they’ve got more plans for Tim soon after this, with a change in creative team.
Man I just want a good tim drake comic
Robin and Batgirls ending at the same time while Batman promises, “The future of the Bat-books starts here” is interesting. Maybe it’s my denial over Batgirls ending, but it’s quite a coincidence
Do people still think this will end with him adopting a new identity?
Cancelling this book on Pride Month showcases perfect timing from DC editorial.
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For real though, DC made the right choice. It was the worst selling Bat book (last month’s issue dropped out of the Top 200 monthly singles charts) and received overall negative critical and fan reception. There was no saving this book barring a new creative team. But DC just decided to cut their losses instead.
Though I’m surprised DC didn’t try to rough it out and end it on Issue #12 (which likely would have ended arc 2 properly). But I guess sales dropped too low for them to ignore.
FM has overall made a mess with Tim’s character, his supporting cast, and YJ, so I’m hoping when his title or YJ gets rebooted, a lot of stuff FM introduced gets ignored or retconned out (and no, I’m not talking about Tim’s bisexuality. Just…everything else). Bringing back some of Tim’s civilian cast from Dixon’s run like Ives and Ariana would go a long way to make him feel a bit more unique again. Even Bernard with his OG characterization and not whatever we got with FM’s take on him wouldn’t be the worst thing.
And for DC gods sake, give him an new codename (though I doubt that’ll happen anytime soon given he’s going by Robin in Zdarsky’s Batman arc) and a new boyfriend (if they decide to keep TimSteph broken up). Even OG Bernard would never be a good choice for Tim. Give me TimIves or TimKon at least if we can’t have TimSteph.
At this point a return to Red Robin 2009 would be the dream
Please don’t let Fitzmartin write another book with Tim in it
Now we just need editorial to wake up on Catwoman and get a new team or cancel that one. Either way it’s less damage to Selina’s character
Move out Damian Wayne real Robin coming my ass. atleast i hope Tim will get new superhero name.
This is a staight up mercy killing. I have every other run of Tim Drake’s solo and mini series, but quit this one after book 3. I just hope that Fitzmartin is shown the door after this. If Tim gets a new identity, I don’t want her anywhere near him.
Let the dust settle for a few months, introduce his new status quo in in a popular Batman book. Then have a good writer and a good artist start a new Tim book. At least that’s my wish for Tim’s future.
No shit. It was selling worse than Batgirls.
Thank god, put this book out of its misery
Not surprising. Wish Damian’s book never ended
I loved Ortega’s art style in the pride special too bad she doesn’t have any other dc books
I wanted this book to succeed but I couldn’t in good conscience buy it with that terrible art. Truly atrocious.
Not even twelve issues. Sad.
This is both sad and ironically funny their canceling the book during pride month. Hopefully they finally save Tim and give him to a new writer (and also just stop handing male lgbt characters to straight writers since they seem to struggle with writing them more thsn than female lgbt characters)
I’d be cool with Zdarsky continuing to use Tim as Robin in *Batman*. Sometimes teaming up with Bruce in the main feature, or sometimes doing solo adventures in the back-up. Just my two cents
I was wondering if this issue was the last one because the cover screams “final cover” and that solicitation is so low energy compared to the previous solicitations.
Goodbye fitzmartin era Tim. You were so painful to read and you deserved better. I hope DC realizes that Tim is still a good character to use but just needs the right creative team….and better spouse.
With Batgirls ending, they should take the three characters and launch a book called Batman Family written by Bryan Q Miller.
Not surprising. Wish Damian’s book never ended
Is anyone surprised? They didn’t do anything right with this book. Hopefully we can get another good Damian run after this mess is over.
If we’re lucky, Tim will wake up next to Stephanie and tell her that he had the “strangest dream”.
New Damian Solo when?
Here’s hoping everything Fitzmartin did is ignored and retconned
I was so excited when they announced this series and then I saw the internal art 😭 the covers always look so nice too. Maybe he will get a better series sometime down the line.
Wonder if there’s a bat fam book planned? Seems like jason and Cass only have appearances lined up in joker and spirit world, Tim just has Batman backups, while Steph and Damian have nothing
I hated that artist. Turned me off HQ as well
If he’s not the “main” Robin, I’d kinda like to see Tim become a more hero-y (sane) version of The Question. He’s like the world’s greatest detective, right? So let him detect. Dig up conspiracies deep in the under-bowels of DC universe; weed out metahuman child trafficking rings, up-and-coming secret society wannabes, mafiosi brokering arms deals with evil aliens/mad scientists, nefarious cloning facilities, and the like – and then assemble his YJ crew (under a new name) and take those evil fckers out in sting operations. He needs a niche, fast – they all do, as they are no longer the spunky heirs to the great hero mantles anymore.
Here’s my selfish request.
Let the mans be Red Robin again!
The art and the writing put me off. I’m just not a fan of Fitzmartins work….especially after the pieces of Dark Crisis Young Justice. Just mean spirited and seemingly badly researched. So I passed on this one.
This is unrelated but since Didio is gone, can someone get Williams III and Blackman back for another run? Give them whatever they want. Just get Kate Kane on another good run. Oh and Tim Drake deserves better too.
Finally, it was about damn time that Meghan Fitzmartin finally gave an end to her awful comic book, the way how she characterized Tim Drake was cringey, similar when she wrote the Dark Crisis: Young Justice tie-in series, I hope that we could see Tim become Red Robin again and have his new comic book with a more professional creative team behind soon, in the other side I’m honestly not angry that DC Comics revealed Tim as bisexual, that’s fine for me, I just want that Tim Drake is continued to be developed decently.
Well good dc can stop losing money on bad Descisions.
Why is it so hard to give him something engaging and serious like his Red Robin run.
I really wanted to like this book but couldn’t get into the art.
I didn’t even know this was out! 🤦♂️
I bought issues 1 and 2, but I found the art too difficult to continue with it. The story didn’t seem particularly awful, and he *is* one of my all time favorite characters; however, I’ve had a few comics where the art actually detracted enough… and I dropped it. Wonder how many more were like me.
My fav thing about this book: it has an end😍! Zdarsky is better at using him (I didn’t enjoy the premise of Failsafe though, but I’m enjoying the current events) in the Batman run.