I know a lot of people are really fond of it, but I really *hate* Tim’s Red/Black Robin costume. It’s such a shame too, because his older costume is probably the second best costume of any Robin.
Bart is right for the meta/out-universe reasons for Barry coming back, but in-universe, he is just a salty little bitch because he will feel less important if Wally isn’t Flash. How can he possibly be upset about his grandfather coming back to life?
Barry coming back just felt like a bad idea, it resulted in wally getting shafted and messes up the really nice balance that the flash family had made, it was nice and simple Wally was the flash Bart was kid flash and Jay was the older mentor people went to for guidance.
But now it’s all kind of messed up, Wally and Barry both bounce around being the flash, Bart has been force regressed back to being impulse, (but still gets called Kid flash occasionally) Wallace popped up as the result of a aborted race swap it’s just a mess
TLDR; Bart makes some points, but is ultimately acting like a bit of an asshole here
People seem to have retroactively latched onto this and Bart’s ideas to blame it for all the editorial things that happened afterwards, but Bart is absolutely being a little shit here.
Wally absolutely earned being the Flash, but so did Barry, and Barry coming back didn’t automatically negate Wally as the Flash. (This is why, during Rebirth, Barry says that Wally isn’t his protogé or sidekick, he’s the Flash to his Flash) Going even further, Barry coming back doesn’t negate the literal billions of lives he saved, if not more. If a soldier sacrifices themselves and goes MIA, you don’t get pissed at them if they survive.
Even if Barry coming back means he had no longer sacrificed his life, he still missed literal decades, he never got to see Wally grow up or become the Flash, he never got to meet his grandson until after he was already Kid Flash. Worst of all, he couldn’t be there to stop Hal from descending into madness (though with the retcons it makes Hal’s fall a bit more inevitable but who knows). Bart saying Barry didn’t sacrifice anything is like saying a prisoner who got their sentence changed from execution to 25 years in jail didn’t lose anything.
I grew up on Wally, but I was really excited when Final Crisis brought Barry back. In the end it resulted in ten years of incredibly dry, boring Flash comics. I don’t think it’s a problem with the character, more an issue with the New 52 stripping away all the history and relationships that made his return interesting–and shafting Wally in the process.
Wally will always be my favourite Flash, but they really dropped the ball on something that could have made the Flash mythos bigger and more fun–instead of smaller and less fun.
Also, I have never really liked the “Reverse-Flash killed Barry’s mom” retcon.
Damn this makes me Wally stan even harder. Fuck yea Bart. These were my thoughts exactly when I read 90s wally and JLA and barts flash run then read rebirth.
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I love the smell of Flash discourse in the morning.
I really like Bart maturing into a more competent hero by taking on the Kid Flash mantle in both the comics and in the YJ animated series.
This page has one of my favorite moments from any Flash comic, and it’s that Bart hung up his own “Yay Bart” signs. Makes me giggle every time.
I know a lot of people are really fond of it, but I really *hate* Tim’s Red/Black Robin costume. It’s such a shame too, because his older costume is probably the second best costume of any Robin.
Bart is right for the meta/out-universe reasons for Barry coming back, but in-universe, he is just a salty little bitch because he will feel less important if Wally isn’t Flash. How can he possibly be upset about his grandfather coming back to life?
What points?
His grandfather who sacrificed his life to save the universe was just resurrected, there is literally no reason for him to be acting this way.
Barry coming back just felt like a bad idea, it resulted in wally getting shafted and messes up the really nice balance that the flash family had made, it was nice and simple Wally was the flash Bart was kid flash and Jay was the older mentor people went to for guidance.
But now it’s all kind of messed up, Wally and Barry both bounce around being the flash, Bart has been force regressed back to being impulse, (but still gets called Kid flash occasionally) Wallace popped up as the result of a aborted race swap it’s just a mess
TLDR; Bart makes some points, but is ultimately acting like a bit of an asshole here
People seem to have retroactively latched onto this and Bart’s ideas to blame it for all the editorial things that happened afterwards, but Bart is absolutely being a little shit here.
Wally absolutely earned being the Flash, but so did Barry, and Barry coming back didn’t automatically negate Wally as the Flash. (This is why, during Rebirth, Barry says that Wally isn’t his protogé or sidekick, he’s the Flash to his Flash) Going even further, Barry coming back doesn’t negate the literal billions of lives he saved, if not more. If a soldier sacrifices themselves and goes MIA, you don’t get pissed at them if they survive.
Even if Barry coming back means he had no longer sacrificed his life, he still missed literal decades, he never got to see Wally grow up or become the Flash, he never got to meet his grandson until after he was already Kid Flash. Worst of all, he couldn’t be there to stop Hal from descending into madness (though with the retcons it makes Hal’s fall a bit more inevitable but who knows). Bart saying Barry didn’t sacrifice anything is like saying a prisoner who got their sentence changed from execution to 25 years in jail didn’t lose anything.
They really did want to hammer Cassie being a blond bombshell in this era, didn’t they?
The hilarious thing about this is Bart is being used as an audience stand in and the point of it is he’s supposed to be seen as infantile and wrong.
Turns out…
I grew up on Wally, but I was really excited when Final Crisis brought Barry back. In the end it resulted in ten years of incredibly dry, boring Flash comics. I don’t think it’s a problem with the character, more an issue with the New 52 stripping away all the history and relationships that made his return interesting–and shafting Wally in the process.
Wally will always be my favourite Flash, but they really dropped the ball on something that could have made the Flash mythos bigger and more fun–instead of smaller and less fun.
Also, I have never really liked the “Reverse-Flash killed Barry’s mom” retcon.
love you Bart
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The greatest thing Barry Allen ever did was die.
Based Bart.
Damn this makes me Wally stan even harder. Fuck yea Bart. These were my thoughts exactly when I read 90s wally and JLA and barts flash run then read rebirth.